It is a rush transcript of “Your World with Neil Cavuto” on September 8, 2021. This copy might not be in its closing type and could also be up to date.

NEIL CAVUTO, FOX NEWS ANCHOR:  Thanks, Martha. 

Effectively, the presidential pivot is on, in case you’re together with the give attention to cash, and many it, the truth is, document quantities, billions, even trillions in new spending. 

Let’s get you updated on the numbers we’re speaking about. Simply over the previous 24 hours, the president planning $14 billion in catastrophe help, and a variety of that earlier than Hurricane Ida, $10 billion in catastrophe help for, nicely, damages after Hurricane Ida, $6.4 billion for Afghan refugees, by the way in which, all of that on prime of the three.5 trillion, some say nearer to $4 trillion, possibly even $5 trillion, on that human infrastructure package deal that the president says we’d like, and particularly now. 

Feeling spent but?

Welcome, all people. I am Neil Cavuto, and that is “Your World.”

And what to make of it administration that’s hell-bent now on ensuring cash will get spent to handle crises which are uncontrolled? It is usually a way by which to keep away from discussing Afghanistan, if that may probably be completed, and put the problem on, nicely, home issues, the place cash appears to be the reply. 

Let’s go to Peter Doocy on the White Home with extra.

Hey, Peter.

PETER DOOCY, FOX NEWS WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT:  Neil, the president hadn’t even returned from his journey to New York and New Jersey to survey storm harm earlier than officers right here began telling us that he desires $24 billion to handle it. 

That is $10 billion particularly for Ida, $14 billion for storms that occur earlier than. The performing OMB director explains it like this: “A brief time period C.R. 

is critical not solely to offer Congress further time to cross full-year appropriations payments that make daring forward-looking investments in our future, but additionally to handle the particular pressing wants dealing with our nation proper now.”

Wanting forward, the president hopes to handle local weather with each greenback of that $3.5 trillion reconciliation funds that he’s pushing. And so he’s so assured that he is nonetheless on prime of local weather change that he claims his Construct Again Higher agenda would imply a storm like Ida would not trigger $1 in harm down the road. 

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JOE BIDEN, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES:  Once I discuss constructing again higher, I imply you may’t construct it to what it was earlier than this final storm.

You bought to construct higher, so if this storm occurred once more, there can be no harm. 

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DOOCY:  Here is the factor about that $3.5 trillion determine price ticket. There is a discrepancy.

Nancy Pelosi stated at the moment on Capitol Hill they’ll pay for about half of it. 

However Jen Psaki a couple of minutes in the past right here on the White Home stated they may pay for all of it. 

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REP. NANCY PELOSI (D-CA): I feel, quite than speaking about the associated fee, as a result of we can pay for greater than half, possibly all the laws. 

JEN PSAKI, WHITE HOUSE PRESS SECRETARY:  I’d additionally notice that, regardless of the measurement is, it is not truly correct to name it any of those sizes, 1, 1.5, 2, 3.5. That is going to be paid for. 

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DOOCY:  So, one factor right here on the White Home, one other factor up on Capitol Hill.

One thing that can’t be prevented, although, on the finish of this month, the debt restrict shall be reached. Congress has to behave by October 1, or else no more cash to spend for something — Neil.

CAVUTO:  Peter, that is an necessary distinction that we will pay for it, possibly half of it. 

I imply, at these numbers, you are speaking $1.7 trillion, $1.8 trillion that you simply may not add. So then you’ve got to return to search out, I suppose, extra tax cash, proper? 

DOOCY:  Sure, particularly as a result of the massive factor that President Biden likes to say about this package deal is, nicely, we will pay for all of it, not like Donald Trump with these tax cuts, the place among the cost was not all completed up entrance. We’ll have all the cash up entrance. 

And in accordance with Nancy Pelosi, who’s the one with the piggy financial institution, that’s not essentially going to be the case. 

CAVUTO:  Proper. Effectively, all up entrance, half up entrance, one thing like that. 

All proper, Peter, thanks very, very a lot.

DOOCY:  What’s a trillion {dollars}, sure.

CAVUTO:  Proper. I hear you, my good friend.

I am the numbers geek right here at FOX right here, not a pink or blue, simply inexperienced. And, man, you both commit with the inexperienced, or you do not have the inexperienced. And if you are going to pay for half of it, that is not paying for all of it. And, oh, my gosh. Anyway, I digress. 

You keep in mind Rahm Emanuel, when he talked about utilizing crises as a technique to get one thing? Have a look. 

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RAHM EMANUEL (D), FORMER MAYOR OF CHICAGO:  You by no means desire a severe disaster to go to waste. 

And what I imply, by that, it is a possibility to do issues that you simply suppose you can not do earlier than. 

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CAVUTO:  All proper, and a severe disaster proper now for this president, in fact, is the storms and the whole lot else that is been taking place, a justification for getting cash out the door as shortly as potential, however generally for issues that don’t have anything to do with the disaster at hand. 

And that’s one other handy factor that this president is doing to promote the $3.5 trillion human infrastructure plan. 

We’ll get into that a little bit bit proper now with Phil Wegmann RealClearPolitics. 

This notion that the disaster at hand is the fallout from these storms, I get that, however then they use it on the similar second to champion laws that may be very, very expensive, I am simply questioning the place you suppose all that is going, Phil.

PHILIP WEGMANN, REALCLEARPOLITICS:  It is clear that the Biden administration is aware of that quote, they took the lesson away from it, and so they’re daring congressional Republicans to vote in opposition to laws to maintain the federal government open and working on the finish of the month by connecting funding for that catastrophe aid to that must-pass laws. 

However rewinding a little bit bit, the factor about that Rahm Emanuel quote is that it assumes that you simply’re coping with only one disaster. As an alternative, the Biden administration is ending summer time with numerous crises on their plate, whether or not it is COVID that has not gone away, whether or not it is the People who’re stranded in Afghanistan presently, or whether or not it is not — whether or not or not it is the border disaster, which does not get as a lot consideration now, however continues to be ongoing. 

In order that they definitely have their choose of crises to profit from.

CAVUTO:  I am simply questioning, although, the place does all of it go? As a result of all of this simultaneous — neglect about what is going on on in Afghanistan and the little greater than $6 billion the administration desires to decide to serving to transfer a few of these people to this nation. 

The very fact of the matter is, we’re working up in opposition to a debt ceiling right here. 

And the timing could not be worse. 

WEGMANN:  Sure, the debt ceiling is the truth that makes Congress truly transfer ahead. It isn’t one thing that they’ll wave away. That is one thing they really should cope with. 

And that is why, when Congress is on the town, that is their precedence. They don’t seem to be going to default. Brian Deese, earlier within the White Home Briefing Room, was requested whether or not or not the White Home was taking a look at the potential for prioritization if the debt ceiling is just not prolonged, whether or not or not the administration was going to choose and select what to fund and what to not fund.

His assumption there from the rostrum was that the ceiling was going to be lifted increased. However that is one in every of these items that requires authorities to really act to do issues. And what’s fascinating is, it is a query of simply that metric, however so many different issues get piled on prime of it. 

CAVUTO:  Sure. 

WEGMANN:  And so it’ll be a tough couple of weeks for the White Home. 

CAVUTO:  You realize, Phil, this may not be the primary administration to assert that one thing was paid for when it wasn’t. So I am not saying fingering them right here, however I do discover it odd, if you hear the speaker of the Home say, nicely, midway, the total factor, I do not know. 

However their intent is to get this completed and ram it via, paid or not. That appears fairly clear. 

WEGMANN:  And Peter made a extremely good level about this when he famous that there was a discrepancy between what the speaker is saying and what the White Home press secretary is saying, as a result of they appear to be ships within the night time proper now when it comes to what the ultimate quantity is. 

One factor is obvious. This administration, they do not thoughts spending massive. The period of massive authorities is again. Biden wish to construct again higher. And he would not thoughts if that requires vital spending.

CAVUTO:  Sure. 

WEGMANN:  As a result of what’s fascinating proper now could be, the press secretary and the president can say we do not wish to do what Donald Trump did. We do not wish to deficit-spend, like he did along with his tax cuts. 

However it’ll be very tough when you may’t even agree on the one quantity right here. One other fascinating factor right here is, there appears to be a Tea Celebration of 1 with Joe Manchin on the left, who’s — appears to be the one one who’s arguing that $3.5 trillion is simply too excessive. 

In the meantime, Democrats — Republicans, they do not have a variety of credibility on this as a result of they have been spending like there was no tomorrow beneath the earlier administration.

CAVUTO:  You are completely proper. Even nonetheless, all of those numbers dwarf no matter these numbers have been. However debt turns into extra debt turns into extra debt.

Phil Wegmann, thanks very a lot.

Need to go to my buddy Charlie Gasparino, the guts and soul of FOX Enterprise right here, on what he makes it this.

Charlie, they’re already speaking about not essentially bringing the spending determine down, however bringing the tax figures as much as pay for it, or possibly half of it. I do not even know. A tax on the investments, on each day trades, on wealth, on belongings, on exhausting belongings, on CEOs whose pay is out of whack with the employees. I imply, and on and on, we go.

What do you make of it? 

CHARLIE GASPARINO, FOX NEWS SENIOR CORRESPONDENT:  Effectively, a few of that is clearly political, to get individuals to cease desirous about the horrendous job the administration did in Afghanistan, one of the crucial — one of many worst days — one of many worst international coverage errors in current reminiscence, occurred not beneath Donald Trump, however beneath Joe Biden. 

And so you bought to alter the topic, to alter it to the necessity for all this spending and easy methods to pay for it and soak the wealthy and issues that possibly attraction to the Democratic Celebration base. 

The opposite factor is, is that there is an air of desperation right here, you can inform, Neil, as a result of they know, which means the Democrats know that it is — they are not going to be in energy subsequent yr, that 20 — the midterms aren’t going to be type to them, and Biden principally blew it for them completely along with his botched Afghanistan give up.

CAVUTO:  However would not a rushed effort, although, Charlie, would not a rushed effort like this additional seal that destiny? 

GASPARINO:  Sure. Effectively, that’s–

CAVUTO:  In different phrases, if it is sloppy, if it is costly, it goes together with occasion vote, and even that, to your level, is not a gimme, it may it issues worse for them, could not it?

GASPARINO:  Liberals and progressives play the lengthy recreation.

Sure, it’s going to most likely solidify the votes in opposition to them. Extra individuals are going to say, how way more cash you going to spend, how way more welfare are you simply going to throw on the market whereas the economic system is bettering? But they play the lengthy recreation. 

They usually see this invoice as a technique to rework the American economic system reworked the tradition. And what they’re at primarily right here is to primarily change the assemble between authorities and folks, between work and folks. 

The overall assemble has all the time been, the extra you’re employed, the tougher you’re employed, hopefully, you paid for — you receives a commission extra, you advance on the earth. What they’re altering the assemble to be is, like, hear, the federal government is there for you each step of the way in which, and we will handle you cradle to grave.

And that they are attempting to alter us into — which means the progressives. And, hear, Bernie Sanders is main this effort. I imply, what number of occasions do I

— do it’s a must to say {that a} socialist is behind this and–

CAVUTO:  Effectively, they is perhaps taking part in the lengthy recreation, to your level.

I am simply questioning, I imply, they’ve the short-term difficulty of the midterms subsequent yr. And I am unsure it will seal that deal.

GASPARINO:  Proper, however then they rework society.

CAVUTO:  Effectively, it polls very nicely. It does ballot very nicely for them. So possibly they’re relying on that. 

GASPARINO:  Sure, hear, and so they wish to rework society.

By the way in which, would not this sound like Monopoly cash right here? So, we’re speaking trillion this. 

CAVUTO:  I do know.

GASPARINO:  It’s so mind-boggling what they’re doing, what they’re attempting to spend, cash we do not have. They’re attempting to destroy additionally — additionally, they do not care about destroying the economic system. 

I imply, hear, you begin elevating taxes whereas we’re precariously recovering from COVID is sort of a dumb factor to do proper now.

CAVUTO:  Nobody worries about how a lot stuff prices, Charlie. Nobody–

GASPARINO:  I agree. I agree.

CAVUTO:  These days are lengthy gone, in a number of administrations and events, that we’ve got all dug our own–

GASPARINO:  You are proper. It isn’t — it is a two-party factor. You are proper.

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CAVUTO:  All proper, my good friend, it was excellent seeing you.

Charlie Gasparino on all of that.

GASPARINO:  Good seeing you.

CAVUTO:  All of this week, we’ve got been trying again at what was happening

20 years in the past this week, forward of the 9/11 anniversary.

And an fascinating improvement on at the moment 20 years in the past. This was — this was a Saturday. It was the final harmless weekend, if you’ll, in the beginning, the whole lot modified. The jobless charge on this nation was about

4.9 p.c.

Venus Williams had simply received her second U.S. Open title. Jennifer Lopez had the primary music within the nation, “I am Actual.” And Nokia had come out with a cellphone that was getting so in style, they could not maintain it on retailer cabinets. It was the 3310 and was lengthy earlier than we had smartphones. It was six years earlier than we had one thing known as the iPhone. And it was a unique time totally. 

However, once more, in just some days later, we would not be speaking about telephones or Jennifer Lopez, would we? We might be speaking about one thing that modified the very material of capitalism and this nation, when markets shut down, greater than 2,000 have been killed, and lots of people started to wonder if we might ever come again. 

We did. 

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CAVUTO:  Actually, you’ve got to be a little bit shocked that, even within the face of uncertainty and a multiyear marketing campaign, because the White Home says this could possibly be, that the markets nonetheless advance. What do you make of that? 

RICHARD GRASSO, FORMER CEO, NEW YORK STOCK EXCHANGE:  I feel what the market is telling us is that this nation, the strongest economic system on Earth, is unified maybe extra so than ever because the Second World Conflict within the pursuit of financial progress and within the pursuit of freedom. 

And what this market’s snapback is saying is that, we’re impressed by our leaders. 

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CAVUTO:  All proper, that was Dick Grasso a couple of month after the assaults on the ground of the New York Inventory Alternate. 

You would possibly recall that buying and selling had stopped internationally and definitely in our nation for upwards of every week. When the markets reopened, they instantly tanked. However, by then, they’d clawed again most of these losses, as we introduced our marketing campaign to enter Afghanistan to take out the Taliban.

Optimism ran excessive then, 20 years later, an about-face and reversal of fortunes that has nonetheless prompted extra drama every passing day, with people nonetheless attempting to get out. 

Let’s go to Jennifer Griffin with the most recent on the Pentagon — Jennifer.

JENNIFER GRIFFIN, FOX NEWS NATIONAL SECURITY CORRESPONDENT:  Neil, with People nonetheless caught in Afghanistan and finger-pointing and confusion over who’s halting six industrial airline charters from leaving Mazar-e-Sharif, the secretary of state known as on the Taliban to open the airport and permit the flights to depart. 

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ANTONY BLINKEN, U.S. SECRETARY OF STATE:  These flights want to have the ability to depart. And we’ll work each day to be sure that they’re in a position to do this. 

We are going to proceed to press the Taliban to permit the charters to depart and, additionally, critically, to open HKIA, the Hamid Karzai Worldwide Airport, to the common circulate of civilian plane, which may allow the secure and orderly departure of individuals from Afghanistan. 

Our efforts to assist individuals who wish to go away Afghanistan will proceed. 

(END VIDEO CLIP)

GRIFFIN:  The issue is, those who they need to now negotiate with embody a brand new cupboard full of among the world’s most wished terrorists. 

The brand new interim prime minister for the Taliban is Mullah Mohammad Akhund, who faces U.N. sanctions, was near former Taliban chief Mullah Omar, who welcomed Usama bin Laden to Afghanistan. The brand new prime minister served within the final Taliban authorities earlier than 9/11. The brand new protection minister is the son of Mullah Omar, the non secular founding father of the Taliban. 

However maybe essentially the most sinister selection is the brand new interim inside minister, who will oversee the brutal Taliban police. Sirajuddin Haqqani has the blood of American troops on his arms, is presently holding an American hostage, has been financed by the Pakistan authorities for years and has as much as $10 million bounty on his head from the FBI.

Additionally within the new Cupboard, 4 Taliban senior leaders as soon as detained at Guantanamo Bay. They have been launched by the Obama administration in 2014, when President Joe Biden was vp, in a controversial prisoner swap in trade for the discharge of Military Sergeant Bowe Bergdahl, who was kidnapped by the Taliban after deserting his put up.

Absent within the new Cupboard, any girls or minorities, which is certain to have an effect on the Taliban’s means to get worldwide recognition or badly wanted monetary help funding. 

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BLINKEN:  It definitely doesn’t meet the check of inclusivity. And it consists of individuals who have very difficult monitor information. 

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GRIFFIN:  An inauspicious begin for this new Afghan authorities made up of most of the similar Pashtun Taliban leaders, a lot of whom have been on U.S. 

terror lists since 9/11. That is who the U.S. now will get to barter with — Neil. 

CAVUTO:  Wow, Jennifer Griffin, thanks very a lot. 

Lieutenant Basic Jerry Boykin with us.

Basic, man, that is a rogue’s gallery. What do you suppose? 

LT. GEN. JERRY BOYKIN (RET.), U.S. ARMY:  Effectively, I feel that Jennifer was fairly clearly correct when it comes to what these individuals are.

These are bloodthirsty individuals, I imply, you — all it’s a must to do is return and take a look at among the intel experiences on these individuals. These individuals have killed not solely a variety of People, however they’ve additionally killed a variety of the individuals in Afghanistan that occurred to be from one of many — one of many different tribes.

These are brutal, evil individuals. And the Shiite tribes have suffered by the hands of many of those individuals as nicely. 

CAVUTO:  You realize, Basic, we’re additionally studying that the performing prime minister is reportedly calling out a variety of former officers of the federal government and elsewhere, come again, we are able to assure your safety and security. As if.

However what is going on on right here? 

BOYKIN:  Sure.

Neil, to start with, there is a quip within the army that goes one thing like, when you end up in a gap, cease digging. And what we’ve got is, we’ve got an administration, to incorporate the State Division, and might be the worst violator right here, that’s simply digging this gap deeper and deeper and deeper. 

Once I got here into the counterterror enterprise in 1978, that was the creation of the Delta Drive. We had a longstanding coverage within the U.S. authorities that we didn’t negotiate with terrorists. Now, what we’re doing at the moment is violating the whole lot that we’ve got stated for a number of a long time now about how we cope with terrorist organizations. 

I understand they’ve dug such a gap that we’re at a degree the place, what are our selections? What can we do now? And let me inform you what we are able to do. We will throw in with these non-public teams which have some very daring, however, extra importantly, dedicated people who wish to go on the market and produce house their fellow People, in addition to their buddies that served with them in Afghanistan, the Afghans that stood with us.

And it’s time for the State Division to get off the dime and create a partnership with these individuals, and never be completely dependent upon what they’re doing now, which is negotiating with the Taliban. 

CAVUTO:  All proper, Basic, we’ll see what occurs. I would not maintain my breath. I do not wish to sound cynical, however we will see.

Basic Jerry Boykin on all of that.

All of this at a time we’re remembering the bravery and the sacrifice and the center of 20 years in the past, and all those that misplaced their lives, significantly attempting to save lots of others. 

Stick with us. 

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CAVUTO:  What do you suppose if you look again now on the video that was now so well-known at that day, at the moment? Do you say, gee, I used to be there, I used to be a part of this?

What goes via your thoughts? 

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You get a chilly chill and really feel very, very lucky and really unhappy for the individuals that did not get out. 

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CAVUTO:  Most youngsters returning to class this week. However the requirement is, they higher put on a masks.

A mother who simply loves the thought, one other mother who would not, honest and balanced, the fuss over getting again to regular — after this. 

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CAVUTO:  It is exhausting to imagine, trying again, simply all of the lives misplaced, however significantly gorgeous is the greater than 447 emergency employees who have been killed on that day, the overwhelming majority firefighters simply attempting to save lots of individuals within the course of. 

All of us keep in mind nicely how they have been working in two buildings whereas everybody else was working out. It is of their DNA, I feel.

Brendan Stackpole is an efficient instance, a New York firefighter who misplaced his dad, Tim, on 9/11.

Brendan, it is so good to have you ever, and thanks for coming. 

BRENDAN STACKPOLE, SON OF 9/11 VICTIM:  Thanks for having me, sir. 

CAVUTO:  Perhaps — and I do not wish to make this painful, however in case you may relive that day and inform me what occurred to your dad. 

STACKPOLE:  Effectively, my father was assigned to the New York Metropolis Fireplace Division in 1981. And he was a firefighter up till 1995, the place he was then promoted to lieutenant. 

After which, in June of ’98, he was in a fairly historic fireplace known as the Atlantic Avenue fireplace, the place, sadly, we misplaced two members of the hearth division that day at that job. However him and several other different members have been on the ground above the hearth, the place swiftly the ground gave means.

They usually plummeted right into a pool of fireplace, the place two members will loss and my father ended up burning 38 p.c of his physique. His ankles have been burned to the bone. And he was hospitalized within the Cornell Burn Middle for a lot of months after that.

By sheer luck, he was in a position to make a full restoration. And within the spring of 2001, he went again full responsibility. 

CAVUTO: Unimaginable.

STACKPOLE:  After which in — on September 5 of 2001, he was promoted to captain, after which inevitably perished on the occasions of September 11.

CAVUTO:  What do you keep in mind about that day your self? 

STACKPOLE:  I keep in mind largely being at school. I used to be solely 9 years previous on the time.

Ready for the tip of the day, coming house, undoubtedly having a way of like one thing — one thing was lingering within the air that one thing tragic had occurred. However it wasn’t till afterward that night time that our household began to assemble round the home and coming in from throughout. 

However my one uncle who was a fireman on the time got here to the home and declared himself that he was — he was lacking formally. At that time, it was powerful on us to imagine it, simply based mostly off his resiliency from previous experiences. 

CAVUTO:  And now right here you might be, a fireman. 

STACKPOLE:  Sure.

I am very comfortable to have the ability to do that proper now. It is one thing I’ve all the time wished to do. Like, I wasn’t — I by no means wish to be a firefighter based mostly on my father’s, like, most attempting days or his hardest days on the job. 

It was all the times earlier than that, all of the tales he gave us, and the love and fervour he had for it. It was too contagious to not wish to be part of that. And it undoubtedly provides me a way of connection to him nonetheless to this present day, having the ability to be in the identical positions as he was in. 

CAVUTO:  It is superb, Brendan.

I all the time discuss what a unique breed you guys are from everybody else, I imply, like I say, working into hazard, as your dad little question did. And I am questioning, on this anniversary, and all the eye given to the day and seeing video repeatedly of these towers falling, for you and your loved ones, it is acquired to be very, very powerful. 

STACKPOLE:  Sure.

However, in all these years to observe, we had such good issues that have been instilled in us at an early age, and my mom and father constructed such a good household bond previous to 9/11 that might carry within the years to observe. 

And having that tragedy occur to us prior in watching him come again from all that was a present in itself to us, whether or not it was life classes or simply getting that further time with him. We have now all the time been — counted our blessings for having that. 

And we simply attempt to make the perfect of it. All my siblings have stepped into lifetime of service. 

CAVUTO:  All proper.

STACKPOLE:  We have now created, like, a basis in my father’s title that helps give again to different individuals which are going via hardships, as we have been, after he acquired burned, to attempt to assist get them again on their toes a little bit, and simply dedicated to all that. 

CAVUTO:  Not too unhealthy, Brendan. I feel he can be proud. And he is proud to see what you are doing now. 

Thanks, Brendan, and thank your dad. 

STACKPOLE:  Thanks, sir. 

CAVUTO:  We could have extra after this.

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CAVUTO:  All proper, most children, by the tip of this week, will all be again at school. 

However there is a caveat right here, that they higher be carrying a masks, or they can not go there in individual. And relying on the individual, that may both rile or delight.

Nicole Brener-Schmitz is a Democratic strategist, a mom of a daughter in pre-Okay who would not thoughts the masks demand. Jennifer Nassour, the GOP strategist, mom of three daughters, fourth grade, tenth grade, twelfth grade, possibly not too eager on the entire masks factor. 

So, Jennifer, finish it with you. 

You do not like that sort of masks, or your youngsters ain’t going to class.

JENNIFER NASSOUR, REPUBLICAN STRATEGIST:  No, I do not, as a result of I’ve a number of emotions on this. 

For my older youngsters, they’re already vaccinated. I put them via that. 

I made them get each of their pictures as a result of I promised them that they may get again to life as regular in the event that they acquired vaccinated.

With my infant, it is a distraction. She will’t see individuals’s faces. She will’t socialize. They’re already social distanced. And, for us, she lives in a home with a bunch of individuals which are vaccinated, and we’re the one ones that she interacts with apart from her classmates. 

I really feel that that’s my resolution to make and never for anybody to impose on my household. 

CAVUTO:  How do you are feeling about that, Nicole? 

As a result of you’ve got a pre-Okay little woman. So, clearly, she has to put on the masks. Does she thoughts it? Do you thoughts it?

NICOLE BRENER-SCHMITZ, DEMOCRATIC STRATEGIST:  I do not thoughts it. 

I wish to make sure that these youngsters get to again to highschool and that we do not have to do with a variety of issues we’re seeing proper now, Texas, Georgia, the place they are going again into digital school rooms as a result of they are not approaching it with a three-pronged strategy. 

We have to vaccine those that are in a position. We want you do put on masks on those that cannot get vaccines. And we have to make sure that we’re having the security of those youngsters be simply as necessary as training of those youngsters. 

My child is 4. She’s spent half her life now principally carrying a masks. 

There’s nothing that I really like greater than coming in your present, Neil, however my most necessary job is as a mom. I took it very severely contemplating whether or not to ship her again to highschool.

And this college’s strategy of masks and vaccines and testing is a three- pronged strategy that I feel is finest for our nation and to make sure that our children are getting as again to regular as potential. 

It is simply not regular but. We have now–

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CAVUTO:  Sure, you all the time surprise how — however you do surprise, proper, how lengthy this so-called regular lasts.

Jennifer, has the varsity system stated you both put on the masks, or youngsters put on the masks, or they can’t go to class? Is it that blatant? 

NASSOUR:  So, I imply, I feel that, look, everybody has their very own state of affairs. 

I reside in Massachusetts, the place about 80 p.c of the inhabitants is totally vaccinated. I am unsure — once we have been speaking about this, once we have been speaking about vaccines, the promise was getting again to regular. Now we as soon as once more should put on masks inside. 

When does this ever finish? And for little youngsters, I simply wish to level out, in 2020, it was hearken to the science. In 2021, it’s science means nothing. 

Statistics imply nothing. There are lower than 500 youngsters who’ve truly died from COVID. One out of each 5,000 adults is getting COVID. 

And in case you take a look at the statistics even additional, and also you see that youngsters have a pure immunity to this — to COVID and to the variant that stops them from dying, they’ve a better likelihood of getting most cancers and dying from most cancers and dying from drowning. 

If we’re speaking about youngsters not getting sick, then why will we allow them to get the flu? Why will we ship them to highschool and so they get strep? And why do my youngsters come house or anybody’s youngsters come house with lice? So possibly we must always shut down faculties and we must always make our children put on luggage on their heads, and we must always be sure that youngsters are all the time masked up as a result of we should not allow them to ever get anything. 

So I feel we’ve got to essentially take a look at the science and work out, what are we doing to our kids? 

CAVUTO:  All proper, I’ll surprise, Nicole, within the case of your daughter, does she have problem maintaining the masks on? Numerous youngsters are ripping it off or cannot maintain it on. 

BRENER-SCHMITZ:  I imply, definitely, there’s occasions that she desires to take it off, and he or she must be reminded. She’s 4 years previous. 

CAVUTO:  Proper. 

BRENER-SCHMITZ: However she’s gotten fairly used to it. She does a fairly good job. 

And, look, I strive to ensure she would not get something. I give her — she will get a flu shot, in addition to she is going to get the COVID vaccine– 

CAVUTO:  All proper.

BRENER-SCHMITZ:  — when the FDA approves it for her age.

I wish to be sure that I am maintaining her from as a lot illness as potential. 

CAVUTO:  All proper, nicely, you each sound like good mothers. You are searching in your youngsters. You simply see it a little bit bit in a different way on the masks factor. 

I can perceive that. 

However thanks each for becoming a member of us. We are going to get via this, girls. In some way, I feel we’ll get via it. Do not know precisely when, however we’ll get via it. 

NASSOUR:  Thanks. 

CAVUTO:  Within the meantime right here, trying again 20 years in the past now. 

Now, that is clearly essentially the most fascinating story in my profession, essentially the most vital occasion in my profession. I feel most individuals would really feel the identical means concerning the significance of that of a sure age, particularly if you bump throughout those that misplaced family members.

And a few, like this subsequent fellow, touched me maybe greater than another. 

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CAVUTO:  Your father, he may have gotten out. The truth is, experiences are that your dad did get out. However he was going again in and holding the door open for individuals to allow them to get out and guiding them.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Proper. 

Effectively, I am simply amazed by my father’s means to be resilient within the second of disaster. And I need America to make use of that as a metaphor and a automobile to boost consciousness of how necessary it’s for us to cope with grief every day. 

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CAVUTO:  All proper, California’s massive recall elections is, what, six days away, and Governor Newsom bringing within the massive weapons to assist him shut the deal, the vp at the moment, we’re instructed the president subsequent week.

Claudia Cowan with extra — Claudia.

CLAUDIA COWAN, FOX NEWS CORRESPONDENT:  Hello, Neil.

The vp spoke right here at the moment for about 10 minutes. She began off slamming the governor of Texas for limiting a girl’s proper to decide on. 

And she or he stated this recall effort will fail as a result of she stated Gavin Newsom leads with braveness. 

Hear. 

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KAMALA HARRIS, VICE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES:  We would like our leaders in California to have a imaginative and prescient of what’s potential, to see the chance of a second to encourage and uplift all individuals. 

That is what the individuals of California have all the time wished. And that is why the Republicans’ recall will fail. 

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COWAN:  Newsom is relying on the vp to assist increase assist amongst younger voters, girls and minority teams that supported her when she ran for president, teams that till lately seemed to be apathetic about this election. 

However due to COVID, each registered voter within the state acquired a mail-in poll. And almost 28 p.c of them, over six million ballots, have been returned. And a excessive turnout on this deep blue state will favor Newsom. 

We’re listening to experiences that President Biden is predicted to journey to California early subsequent week, so we may see one other rally with the president himself then. Additionally, we perceive that former President Barack Obama is releasing a video endorsement for Newsom later at the moment, one other indication of simply how a lot Washington cares about Gavin Newsom hanging onto his job and simply what’s at stake on Tuesday — Neil.

CAVUTO:  Claudia, thanks very, very a lot. 

You realize, in these loopy occasions — I am not speaking nearly runoff elections, however Afghanistan, what is going on on on the twentieth anniversary of 9/11, our fears heightened now, terror and the whole lot else — you’ll suppose, you’ll suppose that fewer individuals are going to church. 

Technically, you are proper. However there may be an exception, the reverend who has now led this cost again to God and is succeeding measurably. Well timed.

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PAUL O’NEILL, FORMER U.S. TREASURY SECRETARY:  I feel we’ll by no means be the identical. In an necessary means, we’ll by no means be the identical. 

That is unlucky maturing, I suppose. However we shall be stronger for this. 

We shall be extra resolute, I feel can be extra unified. It could be one of many worthwhile issues about this, is, I feel it will draw People collectively like we’ve got not been drawn collectively since maybe once we fought the enemy within the Second World Conflict. We’re collectively. 

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CAVUTO:  You realize, we requested it after 9/11. We have been asking within the midst of a pandemic. How will we get again to God? Is that even — even one thing that is doable? 

You realize the church figures and the synagogue figures. Not as many are going again to these service facilities. 

However there may be an exception. And my subsequent fellow is main the cost.

The Reverend Dr. Russell J. Levenson is the rector at St. Martin’s Episcopal Church. And, there, the return has been booming. I feel it has largely to do along with his message. He is a gifted and eloquent speaker, however he is additionally an excellent man and a affected person man, as a result of we supposedly had him booked three — not less than three prior occasions, and breaking information has compelled us to push it again, Pastor. 

So I am glad we’ve got you at the moment. 

REV. DR. RUSSELL J. LEVENSON, ST. MARTIN’S EPISCOPAL CHURCH:  Good to be with you each time I may be with you, Neil. It is good to see you once more. 

CAVUTO:  You realize, I am amazed at what you’ve got been in a position to lead at your rectory, the $60 million marketing campaign that started with assist of George Bush Sr. and Barbara Bush, by extension, the Bush household. And it is prolonged previous them and thru a pandemic, lastly accomplished.

And you’ve got extra individuals going now to church and companies than you probably did prior. How did you try this? 

LEVENSON:  Effectively, that is — thanks for that sort of cheerleading there.

However I work for an exquisite church. And the individuals there are vibrant and natural. They usually have all the time been very concerned locally and really

— really feel excellent about their church. 

You could have talked about this marketing campaign, which was giant, however that subsisted of hundreds of presents from a wide range of sizes, I feel the management supplied by the Bushes, as a result of the marketing campaign truly began earlier than — earlier than their well being severely declined — after which continued, and was additionally led by Secretary and Mrs. James Baker, who’re lively members of the parish. 

However individuals noticed the have to be concerned locally. It actually occurred on the tail finish of Hurricane Harvey.

CAVUTO:  Proper. 

LEVENSON:  After which proper on the — proper because the pandemic started, we pivoted, as did many individuals. However we pivoted in ways in which we have been nonetheless in a position to attain out to the group, as a result of, as you simply talked about, as we’ve got been watching in your program at the moment, the necessity for hope now could be as determined because it has ever been. 

And I feel the message of the church is all the time to level to hope. We — sure, we’ve got moments of grief.

(CROSSTALK)

CAVUTO:  Proper. It isn’t taking place all over the place, Reverend. 

(CROSSTALK)

CAVUTO:  And I am simply questioning, how do you retain that thriving?

Lots of people, after the pandemic, who forcibly could not go to companies, have stated, sure, what is the rush? Why ought to I hassle? 

LEVENSON:  Proper. Proper. 

CAVUTO:  What do you say? 

LEVENSON:  Effectively, I’ve stated to them, it’s a must to hassle. 

(LAUGHTER)

LEVENSON:  My message has been, it is necessary to return collectively.

We do know that, when religion communities come collectively, whether or not they’re Jewish or Muslim or Christian, that they’re more healthy communities. They’ve higher psychological well being. They’ve higher bodily well being. Individuals who go to church truly reside longer. 

However beside all of that, we have to proceed to level individuals to the everlasting functions that we imagine and maintain on to. You keep in mind the Dutch evangelist Corrie ten Growth, who was only a fantastic individual, who was in Ravensbruck focus camp for rescuing Jews.

She used to say, in case you take a look at the world, you get depressed. In case you look inside — in case you take a look at world, you get distressed. In case you look inside, you get depressed. However in case you look to God, you get to be an individual at relaxation. 

And I feel the therapeutic of our world has to start with connecting individuals again to a relationship with God. And you’ll’t try this in silos. So we’ve got been cautious and protecting. We have now completed a variety of safety round our campus and, when essential, worn masks and had sanitation. 

However I’ve continued to inform our members, it is so necessary to return collectively. You may’t reside out your religion in a silo. And we all know our phrase stated in Genesis. It isn’t — good for a person and girl to not be alone.

Folks want to return collectively. And the way in which we do that usually is in our worship and in our service and our dedication to residing past ourselves. 

And so, sure, as you simply stated, we’ve got truly skilled progress.

CAVUTO:  Proper. 

LEVENSON:  We have now added about 270 members through the pandemic. And we’ve got seen the return of attendances start to creep up. We’re now — this Sunday, we shall be at six completely different companies. 

And, Neil, curiously sufficient, we did not attain out with livestreaming, the world you reside in on a regular basis. However we’re doing that now. 

(LAUGHTER)

LEVENSON:  And we even have individuals right here who’re becoming a member of the church from outdoors the state. We had members be part of not too way back from Minnesota. 

We’re their church.

However I do — I feel I’d lean in actually a lot on someone who’s in your corporation. You keep in mind Paul Harvey. 

CAVUTO:  Certain.

LEVENSON:  Lots of people will not do not forget that title anymore. 

However I keep in mind a few years in the past listening to him say there shall be no peace on Earth till every individual one after the other makes their peace with God. And we’ve got spent a variety of time in the previous few years pondering the answer to our societal ills is in politics or in who we elect or in a motion or in a social engagement. 

And whereas all these issues are necessary, they are not as necessary as getting ourselves related to our heavenly father, and coming to be individuals at relaxation with him, in order that we may be empowered to be loving and serving locally round us.

That — the societal ills I feel we’re dealing with now are way more non secular than they’re — frankly, than they’re financial or political or over issues like racism or inequality. 

These issues have to be addressed, however I feel that they are actually addressed primarily via getting individuals in group with each other and related to the one who created them. 

CAVUTO:  Pastor, I imply, you are a modest man, however I feel the key to your success has been that you simply hear, and you do not scold individuals. You do not discuss them being sinners. You discuss them as being real human beings who the lord loves, no matter your religion, denomination.

You get that. And also you’re mesmerizing. So, I’ve no — no shock right here in what you are seeing because of that. 

Many, many and way more success sooner or later, Reverend. Thanks. 

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